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England and Wales Court of Appeal (Criminal Division) Decisions |
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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> England and Wales Court of Appeal (Criminal Division) Decisions >> John M, R. v [2003] EWCA Crim 3452 (14 November 2003) URL: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2003/3452.html Cite as: [2004] MHLR 86, [2003] EWCA Crim 3452 |
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CRIMINAL DIVISION
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MR JUSTICE RODERICK EVANS
MR JUSTICE COOKE
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"My directions of law to the jury as to what the defendant must be capable of doing if he is to be fit to stand trial may have set the threshold too low."
"This means that the defendant must be able to convey intelligibly to his lawyers the case which he wishes them to advance on his behalf and the matters which he wishes them to put forward in his defence. It involves being able (a) to understand the lawyers' questions, (b) to apply his mind to answering them, and (c) to convey intelligibly to the lawyers the answers which he wishes to give. It is not necessary that his instructions should be plausible or believable or reliable, nor is it necessary that he should be able to see that they are implausible, or unbelievable or unreliable. Many defendants put forward cases and explanations which are implausible, unbelievable or unreliable. The whole purpose of the trial process is to determine what parts of the evidence are reliable and what parts are not. That is what the jury are there for."
"This means that the defendant must be able (a) to understand what is said by the witness and by counsel in their speeches to the jury and (b) to communicate intelligibly to his lawyers any comment which he may wish to make on anything that is said by the witnesses or counsel. Few defendants will be able to remember at the end of a court session all the points that may have occurred to them about what has been said during that session. It is, therefore, quite normal for the defendant to be provided with pencil and paper so that he can jot down notes and pass them to his lawyers either as and when he writes them, or at the end of the session. (Lawyers normally prefer not to be bombarded with too many notes while they are trying to concentrate on the evidence). There is also no reason why the defendant's solicitor's representative should not be permitted to sit beside him in court to help with the note taking process."
"It is not necessary that the defendant's comments on the evidence and counsels' speeches should be valid or helpful to his lawyers or helpful to his case. It often happens that a defendant fails to see what is or is not a good point to make in his defence. The important thing is that he should be able to make whatever comments he wishes."
"This means that the defendant must be able (a) to understand the questions he is asked in the witness box, (b) to apply his mind to answering them, and (c) to convey intelligibly to the jury the answers which he wishes to give. It is not necessary that his answers should be plausible or believable or reliable. Nor is it necessary that he should be able to see that they are implausible or unbelievable or unreliable. Many defendants and other witnesses give evidence which is either in whole or in parts implausible, unbelievable or unreliable. The whole purpose of the trial process is to determine what parts of the evidence are reliable and what parts are not. That is what the jury are there for. Nor is it necessary that the defendant should be able to remember all or any of the matters which give rise to the charges against him. He is entitled to say that he has no recollection of those events, or indeed of anything that happened during the relevant period."
"There are three points to be inquired into -- First, whether the prisoner is mute of malice or not; secondly, whether he can plead to the indictment or not; thirdly, whether he is of sufficient intellect to comprehend the course of proceedings on the trial, so as to make a proper defence -- to know that he might challenge any of you to whom he may object -- and to comprehend the details of the evidence, which in a case of this nature must constitute a minute investigation. Upon this issue, therefore, if you think that there is no certain mode of communicating the details of the trial to the prisoner, so that he can clearly understand them, and be able properly to make his defence to the charge; you ought to find that he is not of sane mind. It is not enough, that he may have a general capacity of communicating on ordinary matters."