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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> England and Wales Court of Protection Decisions >> Liverpool City Council v SG & Ors [2014] EWCOP 10 (18 June 2014) URL: http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCOP/2014/10.html Cite as: [2014] PTSR D20, [2014] EWCOP 10 |
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SITTING AT MANCHESTER
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Sitting as a judge of the Court of Protection
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LIVERPOOL CITY COUNCIL | Applicants | |
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SG (By her litigation friends and parents, J and S G) | Respondent |
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Counsel for the Respondent: MR SIMON BURROWS
Counsel for the Official Solicitor: MR CONRAD HALLIN
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MR JUSTICE HOLMAN:
Does the Court of Protection have power to make an order which authorises that a person who is not a child (ie who has attained the age of 18) may be deprived of his liberty in premises which are a children's home as defined in section 1(2) of the Care Standards Act 2000 and are subject to the Children's Homes Regulations 2001 (as amended)?
Both parties and their counsel in these proceedings submit that the answer is "yes". I agree with them that the answer is "yes".
"Although… I am acting on second hand information here… it is my understanding that a similar issue has been listed before Holman J."
The President responded:
"That is right and Holman J raised with me, it having been suggested to him by counsel involved in the case that he should do so, the question of whether that matter should be swept up in this and I said no, it should not, because I was not dealing with substantive issues of that sort, and that matter, as I understand it, being heard by Holman J on 18th June…"
"…It may be that, subject to Holman J's approval, the way to participate would be to put in written submissions. There is a whole range of ways in which to participate but I think the practical way forward is for you to discuss that and try to come to some sensible solution. I am sure that… if you and the others involved come up with an agreed solution which does not affect the overall timescale and does not imperil the hearing… Holman J would be content to go along with it."
In that short passage I would wish to stress the reference by the President himself to not affecting the overall timescale, viz. of the present case, and not imperilling the hearing of the present case.
"I am also instructed today on behalf of the Secretary of State for Education in the light of the issue that has been raised by Ms Perrett. This morning was the first I had heard about the hearing before Holman J. It may be of assistance to all concerned if the Secretary of State is provided with information about that hearing, and then can consider whether he wishes to intervene in it…"
"…It would not be appropriate for me to be giving directions in relation to a case which is currently listed before another judge for a very early hearing."
"If the matter [viz. the present case] does not proceed for any reason on 18th June, then Barnsley Metropolitan Borough Council would request that Mr Justice Holman give consideration as to whether the BMBC matter should be joined with his current case with respect to this point of law. Of course, I am only able to provide the position of Barnsley on this issue, P's parents have been served with the papers but I do not have their position on these issues, nor has P been joined yet."
"An order pursuant to the court's powers under rule 25(2)(f) of the Court of Protection Rules 2007:
(i) Consolidating the cases of Liverpool CC v SG (Case No 12410651) [viz. the present case] and WCC v NJ & YJ & HGL (Case no: 12382069);
(ii) If the above order is made, an order that the court's consideration of whether the court is permitted to authorise a deprivation of a person's liberty at a residential school is adjourned to allow all parties sufficient time to make submissions on this point in advance of a further hearing."
"I can only suggest that if the case [viz. the present case] does or may concern the Secretary of State for Education he is represented at the hearing next Wednesday. We can then consider, when I know rather more about it, whether the Secretary of State should be permitted to intervene and the scope of any disclosure. If that has the effect that the substantive hearing is then adjourned, then so be it."
I wish to stress that I sent that email at a time when I knew virtually nothing at all about the present case or the issues raised in it. I had no idea then, nor indeed until this morning, as to the extent of dispute between the parties themselves to the present proceedings; but as can be seen from that passage from my email, I was entirely open (as I remained until this morning) to adjourning the present hearing and enlarging the parties to it if appropriate to do so.
"I am instructed on behalf of the Secretary of State for Education in a number of cases which raise the issue as to whether children [I emphasise there the word "children"] who are resident in non-secure children's homes or residential special schools are being deprived of their liberty in such settings following the decision of the Supreme Court in Cheshire West & Chester Council v P. If they are being deprived of their liberty, that in turn raises further issues as to how any such deprivation of liberty is to be authorised. This involves a careful consideration of the terms of the Children's Homes Regulations 2001, the Education (Non-Maintained Special Schools) (England) Regulations 2011, and the National Minimum Standards for Children's Homes and Residential Special Schools. For children over the age of 16, it may also raise issues as to the terms of the joint guidance published by OFSTED and the President of the Court of Protection in February 2014.
These issues potentially affect a large number of children and young people who lack capacity but who currently reside in non-secure children's homes or residential special schools. By way of example only, as at 31st March 2014, there were more than 6,500 over 16 year olds residing in care homes, children's homes or residential special schools. The Secretary of State has not yet been able to determine the proportion of those 6,500 odd young people who may lack capacity.
The Secretary of State was made aware of the case of Liverpool City Council v SG which, it was said, was a case that could raise similar issues. I understand that this case is to be heard before Mr Justice Holman tomorrow, on Wednesday, 18th June. The judge kindly granted permission for the parties to disclose copies of their skeleton arguments to the Secretary of State so that my client could consider whether he wished to intervene in this case. The skeleton argument on behalf of the local authority was provided on Thursday, 12th June, and the skeleton for P was provided to the Secretary of State yesterday, on Monday, 16th June 2014.
My client has now reviewed those skeleton arguments. The Secretary of State understands that it is common ground in this case that the Children's Homes Regulations 2001 and the National Minimum Standards for Children's Homes do not apply to P, as she is no longer a child, being more than 18 years of age. It is also common ground between the parties that the Court of Protection therefore has jurisdiction to authorise P's deprivation of liberty in her current placement.
In light of this, and the further common ground that it is in P's best interests to continue residing in her present placement, the Secretary of State does not intend to apply to intervene in the present case. However, he reserves the right to make submissions on the correct interpretation of the regulations and the National Minimum Standards in any future case where this may arise."
"…one provider has already identified a suitable property and indicated a service could be in place for October 2014. It is hoped that securing a property will take no more than six to nine months after appointing the care agency, but it may be much quicker than that."
As I understand it, it is contemplated that a high level of staffing and supervision will be required under that plan. If (as I assume is likely) it will involve a deprivation of liberty, then, in due course appropriate authorisations will be required.
"4. To the extent that the arrangements and other measures in place as part of [the patient's] care and risk management plans amount to a deprivation of her liberty, they are lawful and otherwise in her best interests."
"(i) In the light of guidance issued on 12th February 2014 paragraph 4 of the declarations section of the order of 6th February 2014 be set aside;
(ii) In all other respects, the order of 6th February 2014 is confirmed."
"Whereas the court records that a serious issue has been raised concerning the respondent's current deprivation of liberty at a non-secure children's home in light of the Children's Home Regulations 2001 (Regulation 17A), the subsequent guidance of the President and OFSTED dated February 2014 and the decision of the Supreme Court in P v Cheshire West and Chester Council…"
it was ordered and directed that: "This matter is transferred to the High Court for hearing before Mr Justice Holman sitting" here in Manchester today.
"(1) Subject to paragraph (2) a measure of restraint may only be used on a child accommodated in a children's home for the purpose of-
(a) preventing injury to any person (including the child who is being restrained);
(b) preventing serious damage to the property of any person (including the child who is being restrained); and
(c) in the case of a child accommodated in a children's home which is a secure children's home, preventing the child from absconding from the home,
and then only where no alternative method of preventing the event specified in sub-paragraphs (a) to (c) is available."
"3. The Court of Protection should be reminded by the parties of the regulations that apply to children's homes and residential special schools. The Court of Protection does not have the jurisdiction to require any home or school to act in breach of such regulations or to authorise any such breach. Accordingly, the Court of Protection should not make an order authorising a plan for the care and supervision involving the detention of a person, where to do so would involve the children's home or a residential special school breaching the regulations that apply to it. If compliance with an order of the Court of Protection would involve such a breach of the relevant Regulations it cannot be relied on to justify breach of the Regulations or enforced in a manner that would involve such a breach."
"4. All children's homes must meet the Children's Homes Regulations (2001). In this instance, the relevant regulations are:
Regulation 11 (Promotion of Welfare),
Regulation 17 (Behaviour, management and discipline) and
Regulation 17A (Restraint).
As restraint can only be used to prevent a child from leaving a secure children's home, there is no purpose to be served in seeking an order of the Court of Protection authorising such restraint by a non-secure children's home because the Court of Protection has no jurisdiction to order or authorise a breach of these regulations."
"13. Orders of the Court of Protection authorising a deprivation of liberty by non-secure children's homes or residential special schools should not be sought or made and they should not be advanced or relied on to permit such homes and schools to act in breach of the regulations that apply to them."
That, of course, is merely a summary, and the content of paragraph 13 is more fully elaborated in paragraphs 3 and 4 from which I have already quoted.