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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Gould v. Haileybury & Imperial Service College & Anor [2001] UKEAT 1191_00_0606 (6 June 2001) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2001/1191_00_0606.html Cite as: [2001] UKEAT 1191__606, [2001] UKEAT 1191_00_0606 |
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At the Tribunal | |
Before
THE HONOURABLE MR JUSTICE LINDSAY (PRESIDENT)
MR P DAWSON OBE
MR B M WARMAN
APPELLANT | |
IMPERIAL SERVICE COLLEGE (2) THE GOVERNORS OF LAMBROOK HAILEYBURY SCHOOL |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
PRELIMINARY HEARING
For the Appellant | IN PERSON |
MR JUSTICE LINDSAY (PRESIDENT)
"The applicant claims that he should be compensated in respect of the ski trip which he undertook for the School each year when he was in charge of a party of pupils for the purpose. We do not accept for one moment that he should be compensated in this way. It was not a term of his contract that he should have the benefit of some skiing holiday. The holiday was not for his benefit but for the purpose of his being in charge of the pupils on such an expedition. The fact that he derived pleasure from such an activity at the cost of the School is neither here nor there. Not until he became employed at Sussex House did the applicant go on a ski trip; he did not do this during 1998 when unemployed."
"He was entitled to full board during term time. This was subsidised by the School in that the applicant had to pay no more than £87 each term in respect of this provision."
It has to be remembered that the Employment Tribunal is the master of fact. They hear the evidence; we have no Chairman's notes; we have no note of what was said to them by either side in this matter. It is very difficult to discern any error of law in the food computation. There is no reason for us to suppose that the figure that the Tribunal eventually came up with was not the best that they could do on what was, perhaps, inadequate evidence laid before them. We are unable to say that there was an error of law in that part of the Tribunal's reasoning and so the "food" heading is dismissed.
"The applicant claimed a number of general expenses of travel in respect of removing his belongings from his School accommodation and taking them elsewhere as well as expenses in relation to seeking other employment. It is difficult to analyse all of these precisely from the evidence which we have, but on balance we think it appropriate to take a "broad brush" approach and we award a figure of £250 in this respect."
"He maintains that the respondent should have admitted unfair dismissal at the outset and not at the stage when they did, because the dismissal was patently unfair. We reject the applicant's claim absolutely because whatever he might say, the respondents had to defend a comprehensive and detailed claim for sex discrimination and victimisation. They defended those claims successfully. The unfair dismissal claim barely featured due to the admission by the respondents. The breach of contract claim was not unreasonably contested. There can be no question of any award for costs."
"In effect the chain of causation was broken when the applicant commenced employment with Sussex House."
The Employment Tribunal also said:
"In our view there was a clear break as at 1 September 1999. The respondents could not, in the circumstances, be responsible for any loss beyond that date."
That, in a way, overstates the Employment Tribunal's position because it plainly did look at the possibilities of loss in terms of food, accommodation, cleaning and so on, after the 1 September 1998. The Employment Tribunal itself stopped only the computation of loss of direct financial remuneration as at that date, as one can see from the figures given in their award where they say on what is on page 18:
"Compensatory award for the period
1 May to 31 August 1998 (4 months)
net wage. The Prescribed Element £5,796.28"
It was only direct financial remuneration that stopped as at that date.
"Whilst we appreciate that it would be more expensive for the applicant to live in London than in Windsor where he had the advantages of accommodation at his School with subsidised meals, which was not the case at Sussex House, nevertheless there is such a differential in the incomes in the two establishments that we believe that the applicant did in fact receive the benefit of comparable employment in financial terms when he joined Sussex House."
When that is taken into account, it could be taken to be an indication that to compensate separately for non-salary benefits would involve the provision of compensating for something which was not lost, in the sense that, given the salary at Sussex House and the increment in that salary over what had been paid at Haileybury, that difference itself compensated for the loss of non-salary benefits. That is what the conclusion that we have just cited seems to suggest. That will be a factor which may be necessary to be considered at a full hearing. However, limiting ourselves to the issue of whether the Employment Tribunal could, without error of law, take the 1 September 1998 as a break in causation and hence put an end to compensatable loss of salary, we see no error of law in the Tribunal's approach and hence dismiss the appeal.
"No interest is payable on unfair dismissal compensatory awards."
We do not expect the Employment Tribunal to be intending there to say that no interest is payable for periods after their award if the award remains unpaid - see Employment Tribunal Interest Order 1990. However, when a Tribunal has the task of compensating for the loss of sums that would not ordinarily be paid in a lump but rather would be paid bit by bit over a period (such as salaries) if the Tribunal were to consider that they had no right to discount by reason of their compensating by way of a lump sum or no right to compensate for payment not having been made over a period by taking into account interest over a period, that would seem to us to be an arguable error of law. It is rather hard to know precisely what they had in mind because their conclusion was so very terse and quite how Mr Gould will put the argument will remain to be seen but we are not at all sure that there is no error of law in their dealing with interest in the way that they did and so that is a ground that can go forward to the full hearing.