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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Younas v. The Chief Constable of The Thames Valley Police [2001] UKEAT 795_00_2803 (28 March 2001) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2001/795_00_2803.html Cite as: [2001] UKEAT 795_00_2803, [2001] UKEAT 795__2803 |
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At the Tribunal | |
Before
THE HONOURABLE MR JUSTICE HOOPER
MR B GIBBS
MR P A L PARKER CBE
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
Revised
For the Appellant | MR C SPRATT (Of Counsel) Instructed by: Messrs Baily Gibson Solicitors 30 High Street High Wycombe Bucks HP11 2AG |
For the Respondent | MR A KORN (Of Counsel) Instructed by: Thames Valley Police Headquarters Human Resources Dept Oxford Road Kidlington Oxford OX5 2NX |
MR JUSTICE HOOPER
In paragraph 6(b)(i)-(v) the Appellant sets out the reasons why, so it is said, this part of the decision of the Employment Tribunal was wrong.
"We all consider that there is an arguable point to go forward under the Human Rights Act and in the circumstances we propose to let this appeal go forward to a full hearing."
"When the skeleton argument was considered the point on which we all thought it should go forward emerged ie a point on Article 6. The Appellant may well lose but their point appeared arguable."
"The Appeal Tribunal at the Preliminary Hearing allowed the Appeal to proceed to a full hearing on the point on Article 6 of the Human Rights Act – Ground 6(a) of the Notice of Appeal."
The letter from the Registrar to the Respondent's solicitor was copied to the Appellant's representative. No action was taken by the representative to contradict the assertion.
"The Tribunal orders that the Appeal be allowed to proceed to a full hearing in accordance with the judgment of the Employment Appeal Tribunal."
That takes us no further forward in our attempts to decide what it was that the Employment Appeal Tribunal was deciding on 14 November. Mr Spratt tells us that the hearing lasted only a matter of minutes. If the Employment Appeal Tribunal was minded to dismiss ground 6(b) then it seems inescapable to us that there had to be some oral argument about it and reasons given for dismissing ground 6(b). The absence of argument and reasons does tend to suggest that the appeal was not to be limited to ground 6(a) only.
"In the circumstances we propose to let this Appeal go forward to a full hearing."
We take the view that there is doubt about what the Employment Appeal Tribunal on 14 November intended to happen. If the Employment Appeal on 14 November had made it clear that the only ground which could be considered at a full hearing was ground 6(a) and if it had dismissed the appeal on ground 6(b) then we would be bound by that decision. We take the view that it is not practical now to ask the Employment Appeal Tribunal who sat on 14 November what precisely was meant.
[Further argument]
"Whilst it is clear that the claim for unfair dismissal was presented within the three month time limit, Mr Korn relies on s200 (1). In his submissions Mr Spratt, on behalf of the applicant, concedes that the Tribunal presently has no statutory jurisdiction to entertain a claim for unfair dismissal. It is, however, he submits, anomalous and incompatible with Articles 6(1) and 14 of the European Convention on Human Rights now incorporated in the Human Rights Act 1998 and set out at Schedule 1 thereof. He invites the Tribunal not to dismiss the application saying that if the Employment Rights Act 1996 is incompatible with the Human Rights Act and/or the Convention, there may be an amendment to the employment protection legislation which may enable the applicant to pursue a claim for unfair dismissal in the future. In response to specific questions from the Tribunal, he conceded that the applicant did not seek any remedy for unfair dismissal other than compensation. On behalf of the respondent, it was submitted that the rights referred to incorporated in the Human rights Act 1998 (which is not yet in force) refer to the right to a fair trial and the prohibition of discrimination. There was, it was submitted, nothing in the Act or the Convention which specifically related to unfair dismissal proceedings or disciplinary proceedings under the Police Disciplinary Regulations so as to give rise to the suggestion that the applicant's human rights had been breached in this respect. In any event, any amendment to the employment protection legislation consequent upon the coming into force of the Employment Relations Act 1999, would be most unlikely to be retrospective. It was submitted that there was no justification for leaving the unfair dismissal claim in abeyance at a stage when it is presently conceded that the Tribunal did not have jurisdiction to entertain it.
The unanimous view of the Tribunal is that the claim for unfair dismissal should be dismissed and we do so. The terms of s200 (1) are clear. It is difficult to see, in the context of this present case, what impact the rights referred to might have on the applicant's dismissal following a disciplinary enquiry at which he was represented. The remote prospect of an amendment to the legislation at some future point which might then enable the applicant to pursue the matter does not, in our judgment, justify this claim remaining in abeyance for what may be a very long time."
"Sub-section 1 does not apply to an act if (a) as a result of one or more provisions of primary legislation the authority could not have acted differently or (b) in the case of one or more provisions of or made under primary legislation which cannot be read or given in effect in a way which is compatible with the convention rights the authority was acting so as to give effect to or enforce these provisions."
[Further argument]
"The Applicant was dismissed by the Respondent following a disciplinary hearing on 5th August 1999. The dismissal was by written notification dated 5th August 1999.
In January 1999 the Applicant submitted a claim for racial discrimination and harassment. This was not dealt with expeditiously as far as the Applicant was concerned, and he received notification after the termination of his employment with the Respondent that the Second Respondent believed that a comprehensive enquiry had taken place and that there was insufficient evidence to corroborate the allegations.
The said notification was given by letter dated 26th August 1999.
The Applicant has not been given any further details of what form the enquiry took and what investigations were made. The Applicant was not appraised of the development of the enquiry.
The effects of discrimination and harassment led to personal injury being caused by the Applicant, full details of which will be supplied to the Respondent in due course but the Respondent is aware of certain injuries to the Applicant because of the time the Applicant was absent from work during his employment with the Respondent.
At the disciplinary hearing that led to the Applicant's dismissal the Respondent did not take account of the effect that discrimination/harassment had in their findings.
Further, the Respondent, only dealt with the matter of discrimination after the disciplinary hearing despite the serious nature of the allegations when it would have been proper in all the circumstances to have dealt with it openly and before the disciplinary hearing.
Accordingly the Applicant claims damages from the Respondent."
"The Chairman is concerned that the originating application gives no detail of the allegation which the Applicant seeks to pursue nor of the personal injuries sustained."
"and have asked for those recent papers to be binned"
"The applicant is to particularise all acts upon which he will rely to support the assertion of discrimination on grounds of race and in particular, in support of the assertion of a "continuing act". Such particulars are to be served upon the Respondent with a copy to the Tribunal on or before 5 April 2000. If the Applicant shall fail to comply with this Direction, the Tribunal may strike out the application."
[Further argument]