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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Meridian Health Care v. Gabriel [2002] UKEAT 989_02_2509 (25 September 2002) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2002/989_02_2509.html Cite as: [2002] UKEAT 989_2_2509, [2002] UKEAT 989_02_2509 |
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At the Tribunal | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE D SEROTA QC
MR M CLANCY
MR D J HODGKINS CB
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
INTERLOCUTORY HEARING
For the Appellant | MISS TESS GILL (of Counsel) Instructed by: Messrs Ward Hadaway Solicitors Sandgate House 102 Quayside House Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 3DX |
JUDGE D SEROTA QC
[Miss Gill] Well, I am rather anxious that my clients may not be ready to proceed on 30 September if, indeed, they are going to have to deal with the victimisation claim, as of that date, because the evidence is not at one. I accept that the scope of the evidence is not very large in this case but, nevertheless, the victimisation complaint does raise a totally different comparison than a direct discrimination complain, and, indeed, an ordinary unfair dismissal complaint, they then have to consider how they resist the allegation that they treated the …
But your client's case is clearly that the dismissal was not on grounds of race and was nothing to do with the complaints that have been made.
Well, that is their case, but the evidence to support that case will vary depending on whether or not the victimisation complaint is to be heard.
But are there any directions you would to give, for example, do you want any evidence from the Applicant to support his application for permission to amend?
Well, certainly, if he is applying for the primary time limit to be extended, then it would require evidence from him.
Well, Mr Martin, that seems reasonable, does it not?
[Mr Martin] Yes, sir.
When could you do that by?
It would have to be by close of business on Friday, so you appreciate that the 25th, today ….
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Now are you going to want to respond to that evidence, Miss Gill?
[Miss Gill] Well it is difficult to know when you do not have any evidence, but it may well be that we will want to respond, but I think it is going to be difficult to do so prior to the actual hearing.
It is not going to be difficult, it is going to be inconvenient - there is a difference.
Yes, I have no solicitor here, it is difficult for me to take instructions.
Now, are there any other directions that you would like us to give? So far as the hearing is concerned, have you agreed a bundle of documents?
[Miss Gill] I have only been instructed on the appeal
[Mr Martin] Yes, I am afraid I have too, my solicitor does not have the full file.
So you do not know?
No, that is the short answer.
Well, I shall imagine you will get a very dusty response if you turn up without a proper bundle. Miss Gill, it has been a pleasure seeing you, and thank you very much for your help Mr Martin, and I hope you will forgive us if we rather truncated your submissions.
[Mr Martin] Sir, one other matter occurs to me, I am legally aided; I am wondering if I need any direction …
If you need one, you can have it, but you should tell us whether you need one. Thank you very much indeed.