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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> McGIvney v Portman Mansions Management Ltd [2009] UKEAT 0308_09_1311 (13 November 2009) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2009/0308_09_1311.html Cite as: [2009] UKEAT 308_9_1311, [2009] UKEAT 0308_09_1311 |
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At the Tribunal | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE BIRTLES
MR K EDMONDSON JP
MR J MALLENDER
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
For the Appellant | MR R J SMITH (Consultant) On behalf of the: Free Representation Unit |
For the Respondent | MR D CHARITY (Consultant) Qdos Consulting Ltd Qdos Court Rossendale Road Earl Shilton Leicestershire LE9 7LY |
SUMMARY
Unfair Dismissal
The Appellant sought to argue that the dismissal was outside the band of reasonable responses by relying on medical evidence that neither the employer nor the Employment Tribunal had seen. Appeal dismissed.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE BIRTLES
Introduction
The Material Facts
"However, the Claimant declined to allow Mr Eves access to his medical records and when Mr Eves asked if they could refer him to an occupational health doctor in a letter of 14 May, the Claimant would not accept the letter and returned it to Mr Eves and then requested the Respondent to contact him through his solicitors. On 2 May, having made a number of requests for access to medical records, or at least a home visit by somebody from the Respondent to obtain medical information, and not having received a response to this, Mr Eves warned Mr McGivney in writing that if a consent was not forthcoming to these various requests they might have to consider a potential dismissal on grounds of capability. Mr Eves declined to deal with Mr McGivney through his solicitors but required him to attend a meeting with himself and a director to discuss his return to work, again advising him of the possibility of termination of his employment. However, the Claimant failed to attend that meeting."
"However, there was a lack of clarity over the Claimant's fitness to work and we have read with care the Claimant's representative's notes of the appeal. Mr Law asked him what his current medical position was and he said he was still ill due to stress and a hostile working environment and complaints not being met. He said he was now well as he was not in the work related environment but then said he was still ill as a result of trauma and all he had been through. There was therefore inconsistency and conflict in what the Claimant was saying about his state of health. When asked by the Tribunal at this hearing what would have had to happen for him to return to work, he referred us to his written complaint of 20 June 2006 which says that he asked Mr Jirwan to formally acknowledge and apologise for the allegations that were being made by Mr McGivney in as much as Mr Jirwan had caused him unnecessary stress, inconvenience and financial cost, and he wanted an undertaking from Mr Jirwan that he cease forthwith his attempts at harassment, coercion and petty manipulations et cetera. In respect of the Claimant's health it was clearly uncertain whether he was fit enough to return to work with the Respondent at the date of this appeal. There then followed a decision by the directors to uphold the dismissal for the reasons they gave in writing to the Claimant, and in particular the question of non access to medical records and the resulting inability of the Respondent to assess the Claimant's medical condition."
The Employment Tribunal's Conclusions
"8.1 We conclude that the Respondent has established the reason for dismissal and that it relates to capability which is a potentially fair reason under the Act. We therefore pass on to assess whether under section 98(4) that dismissal is fair or unfair having regard to the reason given.
8.2 We are in fact satisfied that the statutory DDP was complied with. The Claimant was given every opportunity to attend the hearings and twice did not attend. He had received stage 1 letters before those hearings. He was appraised of his rights of appeal which he exercised. The appeal considered all the grounds of appeal that he put forward although it is right that the appeal panel did not reopen the old grievances to any extent and concentrated on the medical absence. Further, Ms Andrews had an opportunity to put the Claimant's case. As we have said the appeal concentrated on the Claimant's failure to allow access to his medical records and the reasons for this and how this impacted on the Respondent's decision. It also looked at his current state of health and whether he was fit or not to return to work. We conclude that no procedural flaws have been established which is sufficient to take the procedural aspects of this dismissal outside the bound of reasonable responses.
8.3 The substance of the dismissal. The Respondent attempted to obtain medical evidence and this was denied them. There was a practical difficulty in that the Claimant refused to communicate with Mr Eves who was the only manager in this small business. We have to take into account the size and administrative resources of the Respondent per the legislation. The Claimant expected the directors to be proactive and ask him for his medical records. We find that this is not really a reasonable approach, given that the directors were simply residents who had no day to day management of the Mansions and may not even have known that this is what the Claimant wanted them to do. We also find it was not reasonable to expect the Respondent to deal with him through his solicitors, given that the law says that the employer's obligations are to manage the employee, to meet with him and to discuss the matter with him, concerning his return to work. Of course, we make every allowance for Mr McGivney's stress related illness and we have seen the letter that has been provided after the events by his GP, showing that he was suffering from anxiety and was put on medication for that and that he had symptoms of depression. However, from the Respondent's viewpoint, the Claimant was uncooperative and it was difficult for them to know what to do and how they could best manage the situation.
8.4 We have to ask ourselves what could a reasonable employer in this position have done? The Claimant had been off sick for six months; there was an adverse effect on the portering duties, such that overtime had to be given to the other porters and a relief porter had to be hired temporarily. Further, we note that Mr McGivney himself has told us that he actually felt better after his dismissal, and if he had not been dismissed and had returned to work he would probably not have recovered his health as he has done. There was no realistic prospect of his being reassigned - there was nowhere for him to go within the business, and it could not be avoided that he would work with Mr Eves and Mr Jirwan in the future if he did return to work. It was too late really to address the stale grievances that he was bringing forward. If he returned to work it would have involved both sides putting the past behind them and attempting to work together in the future, and we are not sure that Mr McGivney was capable of doing this. As Mr Charity has said, if the Claimant had resigned and claimed constructive unfair dismissal, then the Tribunal would have been obliged to look at the history of the grievances in some detail. However, we have to bear in mind the case of McAdie, which we have quoted from, and here it has not been established that the Respondent was responsible for the Claimant's stress related absence because the medical evidence is just not sufficient to establish that. Thus, six months on, the Claimant was still being paid statutory sick pay, presumably out of the residents' service charge, and we conclude that really the Respondent had no other option but to do what they did. In essence, we conclude that the decision to dismiss was inevitable and that really there was nowhere else for the Respondent to go, [I think that must be 'the Appellant to go' but that may be right or wrong] and we conclude that therefore the dismissal was within the band of reasonable responses."
The Amended Notice of Appeal
"The Employment Tribunal erred in law and proceeded upon a misdirection as to the facts in finding at paragraph 8.3 that Respondent had followed a procedure within the reasonable band of responses. A procedure within the reasonable band of responses would have:
(a) given conduct of the capability investigation and decision to an employee or director of Respondent other than Mr Eves, just as Appellant's renewed grievance against Mr Eves had been (paragraph 2.6);
(b) involved obtaining Appellant's medical reports by another employee or officer of Respondent than Mr Eves [as Appellant had offered them on 10 May to anyone in Respondent other than Mr Eves] (paragraphs 2.7 and 2.9);
(c) investigated and considered the connection between Appellant's complaints and his renewed grievance and Appellant's ill health in the light of the medical reports and the substance of and findings on the grievance."
"Furthermore, the request for you personally to see my medical records is absolutely denied. I see this as yet another attempt to cast further aspersions on my integrity and perhaps that of my doctor as well, and I will not be drawn into a debate over this side issue. I will happily surrender my medical records to an objective third party when the appropriate time comes, but in the absence of trust or confidence in you personally, I am convinced that this request - coming at this specific time - is simply another ruse under the guise of officialdom designed to defray attention from the original complaints against you."
"(2) The Employment Tribunal erred in finding that the Appellant's dismissal was within the reasonable band of responses and in particular that it was inevitable. In fact the outcome of a reasonable procedure cannot be guessed at, it is dependent on the medical reports and the substance of and findings on the grievance.
(3) In so finding, the Employment Tribunal proceeded upon a misdirection, as to the facts at paragraph 2.4, in finding the Appellant's appraisal in December 2006 was conducted "on the assumption that the Appellant's grievance had been satisfactorily resolved". In fact, the appraisal itself records that the grievance was not resolved to the Appellant's satisfaction at all."
We deal with each in turn.
"In essence, we conclude that the decision to dismiss was inevitable and that really there was nowhere else for the Respondent to go, and we conclude that therefore the dismissal was within the band of reasonable responses."
"We have to ask ourselves what could a reasonable employer in this position have done?"
Conclusion