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You are here: BAILII >> Databases >> United Kingdom Employment Appeal Tribunal >> Johns v. ISS Mediclean Ltd [2009] UKEAT 0355_08_2701 (27 January 2009) URL: http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2009/0355_08_2701.html Cite as: [2009] UKEAT 0355_08_2701, [2009] UKEAT 355_8_2701 |
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At the Tribunal | |
Before
HIS HONOUR JUDGE SEROTA QC
MRS M McARTHUR BA FCIPD
THE HONOURABLE LORD MORRIS OF HANDSWORTH OJ
APPELLANT | |
RESPONDENT |
Transcript of Proceedings
JUDGMENT
For the Appellant | MR O A MOHAMMED (Representative) |
For the Respondent | MR EDWARD HUTCHIN (of Counsel) Instructed by: Messrs Abbey Legal Services Corinthian House, (2nd Floor) 17 Landsdowne Road Croydon CR0 2BX |
SUMMARY
UNFAIR DISMISSAL: Reasonableness of dismissal
JURISDICTIONAL POINTS: 2002 Act and pre-action requirements
The Employment Tribunal conflated the requirements placed on employers under Part 1 of Schedule 2 of the Employment Act 2002 with the duty to conduct a fair and proper disciplinary process. The statute placed minimum requirements only on employers; the sanction for failure to comply with those minimum requirements was a finding of automatic unfair dismissal with uplifted compensation. The standard required of an employer was to show that a dismissal was not unfair under s.98(4) of the Employment Rights Act 1996.
HIS HONOUR JUDGE SEROTA QC
"All points we feel therefore that the Respondents could have taken into account and the fact that these were not pursued at the investigatory stage meant that in our view that they got overlooked at the disciplinary hearing and appeal stage perhaps to the Claimant's detriment."
"However we also accept the Respondents' submission that where inconsistencies in the evidence existed the Respondents did tend to agree with the Claimant. This is not the same as a full investigation but the employer did substantively comply with the disciplinary rules and procedures in its employee handbook and although the Claimant was unaware of the detailed content she did accept that she had been given the handbook when she joined even though we find it disappointing that she was not reminded more fully of the terms of it or apparently given a copy or access at least to the ongoing further additions of the employee handbook which is perhaps an issue that the Respondents wants to consider for its employees in the future. The Claimant also accepted that if she had been guilty of the conduct as alleged this may well have been violent behaviour and violent behaviour which was something which she accepted as gross misconduct and potentially therefore a summary dismissal offence whatever the handbook may or may not have said. The Claimant was in our view properly suspended, we do not accept the Claimant's evidence that the suspension was inappropriate or that the investigatory meeting was unduly short or happened too quickly bearing in mind that it was only an investigation as to whether disciplinary action was necessary and therefore very much a preliminary step in the disciplinary proceedings. There was an investigatory hearing before Nicola Huckle and there was a disciplinary hearing before Morag Campbell. At both of these the Claimant had representation and a full opportunity to state her case against clear allegations of gross misconduct. The Claimant was properly warned that she faced dismissal and after the disciplinary hearing involving around half an hour adjournment whilst Morag Campbell the Respondents' General Manager considered an appropriate sanction before dismissing the Claimant without notice (the decision that we found that she made alone). The Claimant also had an appeal and did attend this before Catherine Horne a Senior General Manager at which the Claimant was also represented by Mr Mohammed, Union Representative who also represented the Claimant throughout the proceedings at this Hearing."
"… the Claimant was rushed through the process a little; a process which she clearly found rather overwhelming a fact which we understand given her lack of experience of such matters and the fact at the material time she did not have representation from more experienced lay advisers or of course any legal advisers."
"The Respondents presented this as fair steps to take to avoid the Claimant hanging around unaware of what was going to happen to her, but her job was at stake and they could have given her more time to come to terms with and answer the allegations. She was unaware of all the company procedures and this could have been spelt out more to her with more notice. Her defence was noticeably more substantive at the appeal stage when she had had a chance to think about it further and Mr Mohammed her representative was able to give some more substantive assistance and she had less than a day between knowing of the allegations and having to defend these at an investigatory hearing where she had not seen the evidence against her and then only three days to the disciplinary hearing itself when again she was not in all probability supplied with witness statements which is a very different situation to them being read out by the Respondents and having to respond to them at the time. We also believe that Ms Huckle should only have been at the disciplinary hearing to clarify for both the Claimant and Respondents points arising from the hearing. Yet the Claimant received no forewarning of Ms Huckle's presence and was only told that she was going to be there as a minute taker. This we find was intimidating for her and unhelpful given that Ms Huckle and Ms Campbell were alone together at the adjournment prior to the decision being made and we can quite see why the Claimant may have thought that the decision was not an independent one and thought there was collusion on the Respondents' part by this fact."
"14. We do however fall short of finding that there were fatal flaws in the procedure on this occasion because the disciplinary procedure was itself followed and we find that both at the investigatory meeting stage and disciplinary stage that
(a) The Claimant admitted striking Ms Ajayi and doing so first.
(b) The Claimant accepts that she was provoked by Ms Ajayi and accepted that she was spat at.
(c) It was accepted by all that the incident occurred in or at least approximate to a public ward causing embarrassment to the Respondents and patients and their visitors alike.
(d) The Claimant accepted that she could have walked away from the incident despite severe (in our view) provocation and not struck Ms Ajayi.
(e) On areas of possible dispute the Respondents tended to simply accept the Claimant's evidence."
"In part due to the Claimant's own honesty and own admissions we find the Respondents' duty to investigate and clear up the inconsistencies in the evidence was reduced."
"16. In an unfair dismissal case once establishing that the Claimant has got a right to complain (which she did) and that the minimum statutory dismissal procedure was followed (which we will come on to). We have consider the reason for the dismissal and whether this was a potentially fair one and whether the dismissal was procedurally fair and did the employer otherwise act reasonably in dismissing the Claimant under Section 98(4) of the Employment Rights Act 1996.
17. In determining this we had mind to the case law submitted by the parties' representatives as part of their submissions and in particular the cases of Foley -v- Post Office [2000] IRLR 827 dealing with the 'band and reasonable responses' test as originally set out in the Iceland Frozen Foods -v- Jones [1983] ICR 17 and we also had particular reference to the Hussain -v- Elonex [1999] IRLR 2000 and other parallel authorities dealing with the disclosure of witness statements."
"… for the reasons given we do not find it procedurally unfair despite some concerns which we have identified. Even though the Respondents could have improved their procedure we do not think there has been a breach of the minimum statutory requirements or the Respondents' own procedure in the way in which the disciplinary proceedings were pursued. In particular we find that despite rushing the process somewhat and not investigating the matter as thoroughly as we would have liked the Respondents complied with its obligation under inter alia Part 1 of Schedule 2 of the Employment Act 2002 on the points of giving the Claimant a reasonable opportunity to consider her response to the clear allegations made and we find that although she did not see all the witness statements obtained she was told of their content and did have a chance to give comment. The Respondents did not have a legal obligation to go further than that even though we would have preferred them to have done so."
Note 1 Between the date when the judgement was delivered and the date of approving the transcript the relevant page in Harvey has been amended following the repeal of the statutory standard dismissal procedures. The loose leaf page is no longer available to me. The point that I had in mind was that set out by Underhill J in YMCA Training v Stewart [2007] IRLR 185
“...the essential point that has to be borne in mind is that the statutory procedures are no more than a minimum. Complying with them will not necessarily mean that the employer escapes liability for unfair dismissal: it does no more than get him over the first hurdle, and there may (depending on the case) be other steps that he is obliged to take. All that such compliance means is that he will not be liable for "automatic" unfair dismissal, which - quite deliberately and as a matter of policy - is intended only to be available where the employer has failed to conduct even the most rudimentary procedure.”
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